Utada: What are you most targeted on pursuing in the meanwhile?
Kojima: There’s a concept in particle physics known as the Commonplace Mannequin, however it may possibly solely clarify about 5 % of the mass and vitality within the universe. In actual fact, it’s thought that about 26 % of the mass and vitality within the universe is darkish matter, and the remaining 70 % is darkish vitality. No matter darkish vitality, we all know that darkish matter exists, however we do not know what it’s, and we’re at the moment looking out to grasp its true nature.
Utada: Darkish vitality is …
Kojima: We all know virtually nothing about it.
Tanaka: You could possibly say it’s a reputation that was virtually given at random.
Utada: OK, so “darkish” right here doesn’t imply “not lit,” however slightly “unknowable” or “unknown.”
Tanaka: We don’t know something about darkish vitality. It has that identify as a result of the universe is increasing. However darkish matter might be defined by gravity, so we consider it exists. However it’s exhausting to seek out it. We’re attempting to measure one thing once we do not know what it’s, so we spend an excessive amount of time conducting experiments.
Utada: It’s like proving the existence of one thing by the absence of one thing else.
Kojima: Sure, that’s proper.
Utada: It’s like attempting to show the existence of an invisible man. A room with capability for 10 individuals is packed regardless that there are solely 9 individuals there. Or there have been 10 individuals within the room, however traces of 11 individuals coming from it.
Tanaka Sure, sure, that’s the thought!
It’s a matter of creating an analogy to one thing else or changing one relationship with one other. Utada says they connect a particular significance to this act. Because of this they often rework what exists solely in their very own thoughts into intelligent metaphors by making full use of the data and expertise they’ve cultivated over time, and the phrases and symbols derived from their instinct. They then diligently perform the duty of speaking these to others.