Erin ‘not notably completely happy’ with herself in most elements and lacked self worth, Simon tells courtroom
Mandy questions Simon about Erin’s weight achieve and whether or not she felt self-conscious about this.
“Do you settle for she wasn’t proud of the best way she seemed?” Mandy asks.
“Erin is just not notably proud of how she is … most likely most elements. I don’t assume she has excessive self worth,” Simon replies.
Simon says Erin didn’t explicitly categorical weight achieve as being a trigger for low self worth.
Key occasions
Simon agrees youngster assist was assessed at about $40 a month, the courtroom hears.
“It was hardly something,” he says.
Simon agrees up till this level he had been paying for the youngsters’s college charges.
Mandy asks Simon about youngster assist authorities advising him to cease paying college charges.
Simon tells the courtroom he was suggested he could be “double paying” if he paid Erin youngster assist and paid the charges. He says this was earlier than he knew the kid assist quantity would solely be $40 a month.
Simon agrees this created some friction between the couple.
Jury proven Sign messages about youngster assist software
Jurors at the moment are being proven messages between Erin and Simon Patterson about youngster assist funds on 21 November 2022.
Utilizing the app Sign, Erin’s message to Simon reads:
FYI I put in youngster assist software in order that I can apply for household tax profit, as I mentioned I used to be going to do just a few weeks again. Their process is attempt to contact you by cellphone or letter, idk which, to substantiate primary particulars reminiscent of you settle for you’re the daddy of the youngsters and agree we’re separated and so on. They requested for a date of separation, it’s type of moot as a result of the evaluation doesn’t start till the date I utilized, which is November 18th, however I mentioned September 14h for the sake of getting a date. They’ll most likely ask you to substantiate that in order that or info strains up. Simply fyi.
Simon replies:
Thanks for the heads up.
Erin ‘not notably completely happy’ with herself in most elements and lacked self worth, Simon tells courtroom
Mandy questions Simon about Erin’s weight achieve and whether or not she felt self-conscious about this.
“Do you settle for she wasn’t proud of the best way she seemed?” Mandy asks.
“Erin is just not notably proud of how she is … most likely most elements. I don’t assume she has excessive self worth,” Simon replies.
Simon says Erin didn’t explicitly categorical weight achieve as being a trigger for low self worth.
Simon requested about Erin’s plates
Mandy is asking Simon about Erin’s crockery at her Leongatha residence.
Simon says Erin had a “combination of plates”.
“It’s not that they have been all completely different to one another… she had a bunch of ceramic plates, typically, that weren’t all the identical. There have been just a few the identical as one another,” Simon says.
Mandy asks: “So there’s no set ones?”
Simon says it was a “a mismatched group of plates” with some matching ones within the assortment. He recollects one colored plate within the assortment.
Simon agrees Erin had about eight to 10 plates in her home.
‘She appeared like a faithful mom more often than not,’ Simon tells courtroom of Erin
Mandy asks if Simon’s “wider household community” was an vital a part of Erin’s life.
“There have been connections there, some good relationships I believed,” Simon says.
Simon agrees he and Erin attended many meals at his dad or mum’s home for meals, however says typically different relations additionally attended.
Simon is requested about his characterisation of Erin as a “devoted” mom.
“She appeared like a faithful mom more often than not,” Simon says.
He agrees Erin took her function as a mom critically and allowed their kids to pursue their pursuits.
Courtroom informed of closeness between Erin and Simon’s father and shared curiosity in books
Colin Mandy SC has recommenced his cross-examination of Simon Patterson.
Mandy is asking Simon about his mother and father’ relationship with Erin. He touches on the closeness between Simon’s father, Don, and Erin, which included a shared love of books.
Simon agrees Erin had sought Don’s recommendation at occasions and trusted his opinion.
A reminder of the household tree:
Courtroom informed of disagreement between Erin and Simon over whose title ought to enchantment on property titles
Simon agrees that previous to 2020 he held hopes that he and Erin would reconcile.
He says in early 2021, they’d a disagreement over whose title ought to seem on the titles of the property they owned.
Simon says as Erin was constructing her residence in Leongatha, he questioned whether or not she was “utilizing him” for his contacts.
Simon requested about separation with Erin and try and reconcile in 2018
Mandy is urgent Simon on his use of the phrase “amicable” to explain the separation. Simon says the couple didn’t interact attorneys as a part of their separation.
Mandy asks Simon about an try and reconcile in 2018 after they had visited South Africa with their kids. Simon agrees this was not profitable.
Erin’s mom died in 2019 and left her property to her two kids, the courtroom hears. Erin used this inheritance to purchase a property in Mount Waverley in Melbourne and her residence in Leongatha.
Mandy says that regardless of the separation, each homes have been purchased underneath the couple’s title as a joint title. Simon agrees it was an indication of “good will”.
Simon tells courtroom of go to to church and Erin being ‘moved’ by communion
Mandy is now taking Simon again to the early days of the couple’s relationship.
He asks about them travelling to Korumburra throughout a visit with different buddies and visiting the city’s Baptist church. Simon agrees up till that point he knew Erin to be an atheist.
Mandy asks if Erin was “moved by the sermon”. Simon recollects her leaving the church constructing and looking out “upset”.
“She was truly moved by what was occurring throughout the communion a part of the service, not the sermon.”
Erin helped Simon’s siblings with interest-free loans, courtroom informed
Colin Mandy SC is asking Simon about his relationship with Erin.
He asks if Erin was “beneficiant” with the $2m she obtained as an inheritance when her grandmother died in 2006.
Simon says the cash was used to assist the couple purchase a property in Quinninup, in Western Australia.
Mandy says Erin additionally assisted Simon’s siblings with interest-free loans. Simon agrees these helped his siblings purchase properties.
“Cash’s not been an important motivation to both Erin or me,” he says.
Prosecutor Nannette Rogers SC has concluded her examination.
Erin’s Patterson’s lawyer Colin Mandy SC is commencing his cross-examination of Simon.
Erin Patterson did ‘blind style check’ with daughter utilizing dehydrated mushrooms, Simon tells trial
Whereas within the hospital on 1 August, Simon recollects Erin saying she did a “blind style check” with their daughter utilizing dehydrated mushrooms in muffins.
Erin remarked that the daughter had most well-liked the muffin containing mushrooms regardless of not liking mushrooms, Simon says.
Underneath questioning by Rogers, Simon says this was the primary time he had heard in regards to the “style check”. He says he doesn’t know what time this occurred.
“It felt like information to me that she dehydrated meals,” he says.
Simon tells the courtroom he was not conscious of Erin proudly owning a dehydrator.
No obvious indicators of ‘urgency’ or vomiting when Erin went to bathroom in hospital, Simon tells courtroom
Simon Patterson says he noticed Erin in her hospital room and whereas she did go to the bathroom there didn’t seem like indicators of “urgency”.
“There was no signal to me of diarrhoea and vomiting,” he tells the courtroom.
“She went to the bathroom as soon as. Not the frequent toileting she had been telling me about.”
For these simply becoming a member of our stay protection, our reporter Nino Bucci is within the courtroom room in Morwell.
Right here’s his report from Simon’s earlier proof:
Simon Patterson picked up kids from college and drove them to hospital, courtroom informed
Simon Patterson is continuous to provide proof about selecting up his kids from college on 31 July – two days after the lunch.
He says he informed them they wanted to be examined as a result of they’d consumed leftovers of the lunch meal, and he was driving them to Monash Kids’s hospital in Melbourne.
Simon says the youngsters informed him they’d eaten steak, mashed potato and beans as leftovers from the lunch. His daughter mentioned they didn’t eat mushrooms. He says it was “well-known” within the household his daughter didn’t like mushrooms.
The kids have been admitted and located to not be ailing however saved in a single day, the courtroom hears.
Simon says Erin was in a room close by to the youngsters on the Monash Medical Centre.
Who’re the important thing figures within the trial?
Whereas we await the courtroom to renew, he’s an explainer on the important thing figures within the alleged triple homicide case:
Courtroom adjourns till 2.15pm
The courtroom has now adjourned for a lunch break and can return at 2.15pm.
Simon Patterson will then proceed giving proof.
Erin Patterson informed hospital workers she had fed leftovers to kids, Simon Patterson tells courtroom
Whereas Simon is en path to Dandenong hospital to go to his mother and father, Erin calls him, the courtroom hears.
Simon says Erin tells him she has been to Leongatha hospital and has informed medical workers that she had fed their kids leftovers from the lunch meal.
He recollects Erin saying she needed to select the youngsters up from college so that they could possibly be examined. Simon tells Erin he’s completely happy to select up the youngsters, jurors are informed.
“She was actually eager for the youngsters to be taken to the identical hospital she was at,” Simon says.
Courtroom hears Erin Patterson requested that Simon Patterson drive her to hospital on 31 July
On the morning of 31 July, Erin calls Simon and asks to talk, the courtroom hears.
Simon says he tells Erin he has solely had a few hours’ sleep and requests to talk later.
Patterson was “indignant” together with his response, Simon says:
She mentioned, considerably sarcastically, I’ll kind out my very own issues.
She says she has frequent diarrhoea, about each 20 minutes, and she or he thought she ought to go to hospital.
She was frightened she could have an accident if she drove herself to the hospital as a result of length of the automotive journey, Simon says. Erin requested Simon drive her to the hospital.
I mentioned ‘no, I received’t’. I recommended she get an ambulance.
I recommended she ought to go to hospital.